就前些时报纸上说的 四个千万富翁四个吃低保的一个中产一个低产 后面的是我自己分析的啊

LZ,你错了，平民阶层绝对大多数，但网络的好处是，吹牛不上税，伪装成有钱人很容易

我也没有钱败那些玩意，我觉得美宝莲的一套都蛮贵！

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我也琢磨过。。。

同意，要秀就要秀性价比高的。。贵有个么事好秀的

第一，说明得意有钱人真的蛮多。

第二，人跟人的消费观念不一样。有人就是喜欢挣一个花两个，有人喜欢攒钱

我用的擦脸的是6.5一瓶的维E霜，发现好用之后，一直在用，还准备多屯一些。我上得意就是看有没有实惠的消息，哪儿有好吃的，哪个商场打折~晒大牌的偶尔也看，反正我也不懂，也不感兴趣~

我和我老公收入比楼主家高一些，双方都有弟弟（我俩弟弟，老公一个）。我爸妈在职，但是弟弟们还没有成家，老公爸妈下岗，弟弟未婚。老公家条件不好，我们买房，买车，订婚，结婚全是自己承担的，老公父母可以说没有花什么钱（老公06年毕业，我09年毕业）。我们就这样节约得过，每年孝敬父母，自己也把车子和房子省出来啦，我觉得这样挺好，相对一个完整的家，那些奢侈品都是浮云~~~

相对于花钱，我觉得乐趣还没有买到物超所值的东西让我兴奋~

我也是啊，每次买到物超所值的东西就好激动，还喜欢到处宣传，哈哈！

Z后一句话 我到觉得有点意思哦！！呵呵

^^没有屯钱也没有屯物的穷人路过……

本帖Z后由 azraelss 于 2011-3-23 16:19 编辑

en。曾经和lz一样纠结。

其实这个得意还算好的。

丽人版很多妞在讨论的天使网站，我是从开张就开始泡的，以前人小不清楚行情。自从08年的金融危机，和上一次我们大陆Z严厉的扫黄打非后，上面不少的妞抛货呢，我顺便扫了点便宜货。

那上面的一部分是靠父母，一部分是靠老公，自己拼生活的哪有时间秀，还有一部分是未知。

但这时间也太巧了吧，以前就有怀疑有些女的钱来的快，但今年连国外的调查机构都直接放话了，就是二奶了，这个不用质疑。别人是拿数据说话和开发市场的。

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么说我装精啊，如下事实证明 from HuffintonPost

Second Wives and China's Booming Luxury Market

While accurate numbers are hard to come by, a 2008 estimate says that Second Wives account for a third of the country's consumption of luxury products. There is a tension between what is officially and socially accepted, however. This contentious consumer group must be viewed in light of a deep-rooted set of Chinese cultural values, including the distinction between marriage and sex and the practical rather than romantic nature of the relationship 'transaction'.

What are societal attitudes to Second Wives?

You have to start with traditional Chinese culture. In order for a man to 'fulfill his mandate to heaven' he needs to produce a son, and women have always been used as a means to an end in propagating the name of the father. So concubinage has been an institution for thousands of years and the Chinese have always had an exceptionally pragmatic attitude toward sex.

Because China has never had a humanist revolution, sex and marriage have always been relatively divorced. That is why many Asian cultures have an immensely commercialized and categorized . The way they separate the two is quite stunning -- the choices are up on neon boards like a McDonald's menu.

Now the caveat is that the core of the marriage is 'commitment', which is to make sure the family remains cohesive. Even today, wives are much more likely to look the other way if the husband has a happy ending at a massage than if he takes on a mistress. If he takes on a mistress, for most unwealthy people, this is a fundamental threat to the marriage. But if a husband is a man of means, and has a significant income, then he can take on a second wife without violating his obligation to his first wife. So there is a whole way of maintaining the system without it resulting in divorce.

Er nai are not socially accepted, but they are not scandalous, either.

When I ask people how much it costs to maintain a second wife -- a trophy concubine -- the average I'm told is 50,000RMB. This isn't just a girlfriend, this is someone who is kept. And she is displayed as somebody that's a result of this guy's power and influence, and access to funds.

The next step up from a flash car, then?

Absolutely. Very few people have really flash cars because they're too conspicuous -- you have the Mercedes or BMW, or better yet the Audi A8 because it's understated, but Maseratis are still highly dangerous and no one is going to drive one around that obviously. But among close friends and associates the mistress is a known commodity.

And how does that tie into gift culture? In 2009, 50% of luxury purchases were gifts -- what percentage were er nai gifts?

Well, no one has the exact statistics, of course. The majority of luxury brand gift culture is man to man -- you could call it trust facilitation in a business environment. That's one of the things that makes the luxury market in China absolutely unique; men buy even more luxury products than women do, and this is often to smooth business transactions.

Sometimes those payouts are ill-gotten, and a way of siphoning profit into non-measurable ways, and sometimes it's just a way of currying favor. But the fact is that the majority of gifting in China is men to men. That said, in my casual but extended observation, another big source of volume is men to women for the second wife. And those brands tend to be much more flashy.

Second Wives because they have to display that their man is dedicated to them. They lead very insecure lives. They are not independent and need to advertise the fact they have a sponsor.

What impact have er nai had on Tier 2 economies?

Of course you will see it more in Tier 1 cities because that's where the wealth is. But any city that has a middle class is going to have Second Wives. I asked people what percentage of upper middle class guys -- and this might not be accurate but it gives you an idea of how widespread the perception is -- and was told 85-95%. It's certainly become accepted as a perk of power. Even Jiang Zemin, the former President, had a very high profile mistress -- a singer who appears on the Chinese New Year program every year. And it's not a scandal.

However, the reason the government has policy for officials not to have mistresses is not about morals, it's about corruption. The mistress is often thought to be sustained based on ill-gotten gains and it's a trigger for corruption accusations, because the actual salary of an official is not high enough to support a mistress.

Given that er nai have such a large amount of buying power, are there any brands or businesses targeting them directly?

Certainly not directly -- you'd never say something like this directly. But any flash luxury brand is going to be embraced by these women.

Is there any evidence that distaste towards er nai from first wives is impacting their luxury buying habits?

Well there hasn't been a shift, it's always been the case that Chinese women want to be both elegant and conspicuous. That's what accounts for the appeal of a diamond -- it sparkles not shines -- or Bottega Veneta with its elegant crossweave that's still very noticeable. A Chinese woman wants to reinforce her understated, gentle femininity as well as her desire to move forward and stand up. So those inconspicuously conspicuous brands have always been popular among Chinese women. What you're seeing instead, though, are the growth of the more niche, flashier brands.

Is there's a risk of something like the unfortunate Burberry 'chav effect' happening in China because of certain brands' association with Second Wives?

Well, I think Burberry went downmarket, and it was reborn -- it's extremely aspirational here. The brands that go out are not the ones that become too flashy because they're born flashy, that's their niche from the very beginning. The ones that die are the ones that grow old and don't innovate. But again that's another subject -- Chinese want big brands but they also want to know they're ahead of the trend curve.

How does the question of love tie into all of this?

Second Wife culture is just one part of a much bigger and more interesting area which is the difference between love and marriage in China and the West. Marriage in the west is rooted in romantic passion, and although that passion evolves over time we basically assume that if it's is gone from marriage it's a shallow marriage. Yes, there are other concerns that surround it -- children, money -- but it's not the core of the relationship.

In China it's fundamentally true that a marriage is not between two individuals, it's between two clans. Marriage is a way that people connect into a broader society in which the individual is not the basic productive unit. This has always been the case.

In China, a romance is not ideal unless it is also accompanied by commitment. In Chinese, when we translate "a diamond is forever", we don't mean that passion lasts forever. It translates as "he will do anything for you, forever". And that's why people buy a lot of things for their mistresses -- that affection needs to be demonstrated, too.

There's a TV show about dating whose title translates as "Don't bother me if you're not serious" . One of the more infamous contestants, Ma Nuo, caused an outcry after stressing material benefit as the most important thing she was looking for. (Choice quote: "If I am dumped, I would rather cry on the back seat of a BMW than on a bicycle.") People accused her of lacking 'morality.' But she hit on a truth: where matters of the heart are concerned, society forces people to look for tangible return for the sake of future stability. As it becomes more difficult to make ends meet, particularly with the skyrocketing cost of houses, the imperative of a practical marriage becomes even more pronounced.

Of course, this does not mean that the Chinese are incapable of love, or do not want to fall in love. It means that romantic love competes with that transactional element in a society where people are insecure because their individual interests are not institutionally protected.

我也觉得大家都太有钱了点······想问问有什么比较平价的护肤品···结果都推荐雪肌精啊，兰蔻啊，迪奥啊，香奈儿啊，黑我！平时这些柜台我瞄都不瞄滴！！

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我也一直带想勒个问题，估计要么是屋里蛮有钱,是富二代,

要么是老公有钱,要么就是自己赚得蛮多!

一般都是家里有钱，或者老公收入高的。反正家里有钱的除了公务员再就是做生意的是Z多的。

丽人妆颜里面的些某某狂本来帖子图片很好，但那个文字看得要酸死。

年纪轻轻有个么资格评论别个花钱不对，产品不对，满帖子都是装精，本来就是年轻底子就好，非要说是产品好。

lz还忽略了有些晒的人幕后都是要做代购赚钱的，毕竟现在社会是有当官的也即钱人才有话语权，哈是写软文的队伍。

得意里面就有部分是的。

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